Misunderstood Crazy Venezuelans
I got the following forwarded to me:
Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo gasoline company Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government. Chavez, president of Venezuela , told a TV audience : "Enough of imperialist aggression; we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century." The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela , was Cindy Sheehan, the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his guest Harry Belafonte, who called President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world." Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance with Cuban dictator Fidel Castro. Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq , the issue here is that we have a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the government of the U.S.. And he is using our money to achieve his goal! The Venezuela go vernment, run by dictator Chavez, is the sole owner of Citgo gas company. Sales of products at Citgo stations, including 7Eleven, send money back to Chavez to help him in his vow to bring down our government. Take Action Please decide that you will not be shopping at a Citgo station. Why should U.S. citizens who love freedom be financing a dictator who has vowed to take down our government? Very important. Please forward this to your friends and family. Most of them don't know that Citgo is owned by the Venezuela government.
People should know me well enough by now that I'm not going to let something like that go by without commenting. Here was my reply:
So we're all clear: just because a guy is crazy and has some very odd and troubling political statements, that doesn't make him a dictator. He is an elected President just as, if not more validly, than our And just because he wants to end "imperialist aggression" doesn't mean he wants to bring down our government. Regardless of how misguided his tactics or how extreme his views are, the fact of the matter is that our actions in Iraq absolutely could be defined as imperialism (the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies).
Given that there had been zero acts of aggression, terrorist or otherwise, that originated from Iraq, it's agents or it's citizens, we as a people must reflect on this without the political spin of our governing party and look at the situation objectively. WHY DID THIS ATTACK FIRST HAPPEN? Yes, it may very well be a front on the "War on Terror" (why isn't Wes Craven in jail?), but that was of Bush's very own making for it was clearly not a front PRIOR to our invasion. Yes, Salaam was a very bad man, but again, he posed no credible threat and all conceivable intelligence suggesting otherwise has been at best questionable and usually summarily refuted. Given that, our invasion and destabilizing of the Iraqi government (regardless of how evil they were) can very easily be seen as nothing more than an act of Imperialism. And our torture of prisoners, and subsequent release of those prisoners without any charges ever being levied on them, could very well be described as a terrorist act.
Chavez is absolutely a nut and has ruined his credibility in the international community as a result of some of his comments. But you're kidding yourself if you think our President hasn't destroyed our credibility in the international community as a result of some of his actions. But that doesn't make Bush any more a dictator than Chavez. And as far as toppling governments, I believe Bush is 2-0 vs Chavez's 0-0. Only one of those 2 for Bush was provoked and warranted and it is a shame he didn't stay in that first country long enough to finish the job and actually hunt and bring down terrorist leaders.
I hope that as intelligent, free thinking people, we recognize what our government should and shouldn't be doing. I hope that we're able to see that unprovoked aggressive actions around the world will only bring more aggression directed at us. I hope that, regardless of the source of the sentiment, we understand that imperialism is not a good thing and should not be condoned or tolerated by our or any other government. I hope that we're able to distinguish between the rantings of a crazy men (whether they come from Chavez or Hussein) and the threats of a crazy man fully capable and willing to carry out those threats (bin Laden). And I hope in the future, our leaders will be able to make the same distinction.
Please vote in November and keep this in mind.
By the way: after Sundays thrashing of Fox News by Bill Clinton, I regret having never voted for him. My problem with him in the past was that he was never straight forward. Realizing that our current "president" is extremely straight forward and woefully misguided, I realize now and vagueries are much easier (on many different levels) to deal with than idiocy. Anyway, the Daily Show showed a clip of the question posed to Clinton followed by a question posed to Condi Rice on teh same day by Katie Couric. Let's just say that it's way easier to handle questions about what it's like to get asked out on a date when you're Secretary of State. The fact is, the question posed by the Republican Mouth Piece Fox News was extremely combative and could have been phrased in a plethora of different ways without being offensive and calling into question Clinton's attempts to capture Bin Laden. It's safe to say Bush, who has been every bit as lax or unwilling (and I don't think Clinton was either of these things) to capture bin Landen but Fox would NEVER ask him the same question in the same way. FUCK FOX!
Venezuela Dictator Vows To Bring Down U.S. Government Venezuela government is sole owner of Citgo gasoline company Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez has vowed to bring down the U.S. government. Chavez, president of Venezuela , told a TV audience : "Enough of imperialist aggression; we must tell the world: down with the U.S. empire. We have to bury imperialism this century." The guest on his television program, beamed across Venezuela , was Cindy Sheehan, the antiwar activist. Chavez recently had as his guest Harry Belafonte, who called President Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world." Chavez is pushing a socialist revolution and has a close alliance with Cuban dictator Fidel Castro. Regardless of your feelings about the war in Iraq , the issue here is that we have a socialist dictator vowing to bring down the government of the U.S.. And he is using our money to achieve his goal! The Venezuela go vernment, run by dictator Chavez, is the sole owner of Citgo gas company. Sales of products at Citgo stations, including 7Eleven, send money back to Chavez to help him in his vow to bring down our government. Take Action Please decide that you will not be shopping at a Citgo station. Why should U.S. citizens who love freedom be financing a dictator who has vowed to take down our government? Very important. Please forward this to your friends and family. Most of them don't know that Citgo is owned by the Venezuela government.
People should know me well enough by now that I'm not going to let something like that go by without commenting. Here was my reply:
So we're all clear: just because a guy is crazy and has some very odd and troubling political statements, that doesn't make him a dictator. He is an elected President just as, if not more validly, than our And just because he wants to end "imperialist aggression" doesn't mean he wants to bring down our government. Regardless of how misguided his tactics or how extreme his views are, the fact of the matter is that our actions in Iraq absolutely could be defined as imperialism (the policy of extending the rule or authority of an empire or nation over foreign countries, or of acquiring and holding colonies and dependencies).
Given that there had been zero acts of aggression, terrorist or otherwise, that originated from Iraq, it's agents or it's citizens, we as a people must reflect on this without the political spin of our governing party and look at the situation objectively. WHY DID THIS ATTACK FIRST HAPPEN? Yes, it may very well be a front on the "War on Terror" (why isn't Wes Craven in jail?), but that was of Bush's very own making for it was clearly not a front PRIOR to our invasion. Yes, Salaam was a very bad man, but again, he posed no credible threat and all conceivable intelligence suggesting otherwise has been at best questionable and usually summarily refuted. Given that, our invasion and destabilizing of the Iraqi government (regardless of how evil they were) can very easily be seen as nothing more than an act of Imperialism. And our torture of prisoners, and subsequent release of those prisoners without any charges ever being levied on them, could very well be described as a terrorist act.
Chavez is absolutely a nut and has ruined his credibility in the international community as a result of some of his comments. But you're kidding yourself if you think our President hasn't destroyed our credibility in the international community as a result of some of his actions. But that doesn't make Bush any more a dictator than Chavez. And as far as toppling governments, I believe Bush is 2-0 vs Chavez's 0-0. Only one of those 2 for Bush was provoked and warranted and it is a shame he didn't stay in that first country long enough to finish the job and actually hunt and bring down terrorist leaders.
I hope that as intelligent, free thinking people, we recognize what our government should and shouldn't be doing. I hope that we're able to see that unprovoked aggressive actions around the world will only bring more aggression directed at us. I hope that, regardless of the source of the sentiment, we understand that imperialism is not a good thing and should not be condoned or tolerated by our or any other government. I hope that we're able to distinguish between the rantings of a crazy men (whether they come from Chavez or Hussein) and the threats of a crazy man fully capable and willing to carry out those threats (bin Laden). And I hope in the future, our leaders will be able to make the same distinction.
Please vote in November and keep this in mind.
By the way: after Sundays thrashing of Fox News by Bill Clinton, I regret having never voted for him. My problem with him in the past was that he was never straight forward. Realizing that our current "president" is extremely straight forward and woefully misguided, I realize now and vagueries are much easier (on many different levels) to deal with than idiocy. Anyway, the Daily Show showed a clip of the question posed to Clinton followed by a question posed to Condi Rice on teh same day by Katie Couric. Let's just say that it's way easier to handle questions about what it's like to get asked out on a date when you're Secretary of State. The fact is, the question posed by the Republican Mouth Piece Fox News was extremely combative and could have been phrased in a plethora of different ways without being offensive and calling into question Clinton's attempts to capture Bin Laden. It's safe to say Bush, who has been every bit as lax or unwilling (and I don't think Clinton was either of these things) to capture bin Landen but Fox would NEVER ask him the same question in the same way. FUCK FOX!
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